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		<title>Thanks for listening</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have realized I have not been keeping up with this blog, and I want to thank everyone for listening to my trials and travails during my first year of sobriety. I am still sober, although I do not attend AA any longer. I now go to LifeRing once a week, which I find helpful [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=275&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have realized I have not been keeping up with this blog, and I want to thank everyone for listening to my trials and travails during my first year of sobriety. I am still sober, although I do not attend AA any longer. I now go to LifeRing once a week, which I find helpful in maintaining my sobriety.</p>
<p>I know that AA has helped many people, so I am reluctant to trash it completely. It was invaluable during my first year of sobriety. However, some groups are more extreme than others, and I would encourage alcoholics to explore other options if they feel uncomfortable in a group. Sometimes &#8220;groupthink&#8221; leads to really bizarre behaviors.</p>
<p>I also doubt the wisdom of treating a book written more than 70 years ago as gospel. I think AA should be more accepting of modern medicine, as there have actually been advances in the past several decades in treating alcoholism. However, if you are struggling to get sober and find AA helpful, then I encourage you to go by all means.</p>
<p>I just wanted to say goodbye before I cancel the blog <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Why do ex-members hate AA?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have noticed the vehement hatred of ex-members toward AA when they leave the program. I think part of the problem is AA tells you will you die if you stop attending meetings, and that AA is the only solution. This makes me question whether AA wants alcoholics to become sober, or if they want [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=274&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have noticed the vehement hatred of ex-members toward AA when they leave the program. I think part of the problem is AA tells you will you die if you stop attending meetings, and that AA is the only solution. </p>
<p>This makes me question whether AA wants alcoholics to become sober, or if they want alcoholics to be too afraid to leave AA so they will become lifetime members. </p>
<p>I think the fear-based approach works on newcomers, though. You&#8217;re obviously at a low point when you attend your fist AA meeting, and vulnerable to whatever bullshit people tell you at meetings.</p>
<p>I started attending <a href="http://lifering.org/lifering.org/index.htm">LifeRing meetings</a>, and it&#8217;s been a breath of fresh air. There are many paths to sobriety, and people should choose what works best for them.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s AA, fine. But if it&#8217;s not AA, you won&#8217;t die if you pursue other methods to sobriety. And I think it&#8217;s damaging for any organization to claim an exclusive copyright on sobriety. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>Moving beyond AA, still sober</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I haven&#8217;t written in a few months. I have to admit the whole experience of going to court to get a restraining order made me rethink the whole wisdom of attending AA meetings. Then I got flak from other people in my group about involving the legal system. Their advice? &#8220;Pray for him&#8221; and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=272&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I haven&#8217;t written in a few months. I have to admit the whole experience of going to court to get a restraining order made me rethink the whole wisdom of attending AA meetings. Then I got flak from other people in my group about involving the legal system. Their advice? &#8220;Pray for him&#8221; and don&#8217;t get the courts involved.</p>
<p>Honestly, that&#8217;s the worst advice I&#8217;ve ever heard. And the 12th tradition only goes so far. I agree that AA meetings should be open to all alcoholics, but I&#8217;m not going to put myself in harm&#8217;s way. Nor do I think being an alcoholic is an excuse to act however the hell you want&#8230; and simply make an amend afterward.</p>
<p>Once I took the blinders off, half the people in my home group seemed crazy. I stopped drinking because it was doing me more harm than good. If AA  does me more harm than good, I&#8217;m going to stop going to AA meetings. I tried going to another meeting, but it was the same old story. The last meeting I went to, I ended up sitting next to a guy who just got out of prison.</p>
<p>I started therapy with a professional therapist after the stalking incident. Emphasis on the word <em>professional</em>, as in someone educated in psychology and not simply spouting psychobabble from a book written 70 years ago. (I&#8217;m sure the only comments I&#8217;ll get on this post are hardcore AA people insulting me for not &#8220;working&#8221; the program and trusting God to protect me from a stalker.)</p>
<p>I would urge women trying out AA to keep a safe distance from men in the program, or start out by attending women&#8217;s meetings. AA doesn&#8217;t work for everyone, but it&#8217;s worth investigating if you are trying to stay sober. I&#8217;m stopping short of condemning AA wholesale, but I have decided another path to sobriety would be best for me. I&#8217;m planning on going to a LifeRing meeting this week, which offers a secular approach to sobriety. I&#8217;ll keep you posted&#8230;</p>
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		<title>One year and still sober</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Year one, day 60 of sobreity. Wow, I can&#8217;t believe I haven&#8217;t written for two months. I wanted to write this great post on how I made it a year sober, but then the craziness of life intervened. I had a stalker from one of my AA meetings, and had to go to court to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=269&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Year one, day 60 of sobreity. Wow, I can&#8217;t believe I haven&#8217;t written for two months. I wanted to write this great post on how I made it a year sober, but then the craziness of life intervened. I had a stalker from one of my AA meetings, and had to go to court to get a restraining order against him. So I have to admit I have pulled back from going to as many AA meetings as I used to, due to the whole incident.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still going to my home group meetings, but now I can only go to the AA clubhouse on certain days. The judge split up the meeting days so we can both continue recovery.  I hope I don&#8217;t discourage anyone from going to AA meetings, however&#8230; I really think this guy has other major issues besides alcoholism, and 12-step programs do not work for everything. But at least I&#8217; m still sober.</p>
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		<title>Surviving small talk sober&#8230; for 3 hours!</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day 351 of sobreity.  Tonight was a bit of a challenge. I had a work event at a bar for three hours and had to make small talk with people I didn&#8217;t know &#8211; without drinking. (Well, I knew one other person but he wasn&#8217;t there for that long.) I was paid to be there, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=266&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 351 of sobreity.  Tonight was a bit of a challenge. I had a work event at a bar for three hours and had to make small talk with people I didn&#8217;t know &#8211; without drinking. (Well, I knew one other person but he wasn&#8217;t there for that long.) I was paid to be there, but wow, that was tough. I drank three Arnold Palmers just so I had a glass in my hand.</p>
<p>I know there are some people out there who think it would be fun to shmooze for a living, but I am not one of them! Sometimes I wonder if I have social anxiety disorder, or if it&#8217;s just an anti-social strain of alcoholism. I really would rather do anything else, even clean the bathroom from top to bottom, to avoid making small talk for three hours.</p>
<p>I suppose if I&#8217;d ever socialized sober I might have figured out other ways to overcome my shyness besides drinking.</p>
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		<title>Still trying to ignore the life-or-death deal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day 350 of sobreity. Wow, the whole website thing totally backfired on me! I should have just kept it business. The website guy relapsed and is off on a bender. I had to buy a book on the software he was using because I had never used it before, and ending up finishing the website [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=264&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 350 of sobreity. Wow, the whole website thing totally backfired on me! I should have just kept it business. The website guy relapsed and is off on a bender. I had to buy a book on the software he was using because I had never used it before, and ending up finishing the website myself.</p>
<p>I am a little resentful at him, but I&#8217;m also worried that he might not make it. The last time he relapsed he ended up in the psych ward because he ingested so much vodka they thought he was suicidal. I have been kind of resisting the notion that sobreity is a life-or-death deal, but sometimes it&#8217;s hard to ignore.</p>
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		<title>Flaky alcoholics and drunk dreams</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day 340 of sobreity. Oh, never mind about the guy. He kind of flaked out on me in the middle of putting up the website. We were supposed to get together yesterday, but he said he got food poisoning. Then he was supposed to call me today, but I never heard from him.  Now I [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=262&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 340 of sobreity. Oh, never mind about the guy. He kind of flaked out on me in the middle of putting up the website. We were supposed to get together yesterday, but he said he got food poisoning. Then he was supposed to call me today, but I never heard from him.  Now I have a half-finished website &#8212; which is my own stupid fault for not just paying someone to do it. Arrggh!</p>
<p>Then I had a drunk dream where I went to a Chinese restaurant and ordered wine&#8230; In the dream, I thought now I can date so-and-so since I relapsed.  It kind of freaked me out, though, I woke up and couldn&#8217;t remember if it was a dream or not for a few seconds. I haven&#8217;t had a drunk dream in a while&#8230; I wonder if they ever go away.</p>
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		<title>Playing with fire&#8230; again</title>
		<link>http://quietdrunk.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/playing-with-fire-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day 332 of sobreity. After a disastrous dating experience when I was three months sober, I swore off dating guys in AA because it just seemed like too much drama. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t go anywhere except work and AA meetings so it&#8217;s not like I really meet anyone outside the rooms. Now I have a [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=260&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 332 of sobreity. After a disastrous dating experience when I was three months sober, I swore off dating guys in AA because it just seemed like too much drama. Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t go anywhere except work and AA meetings so it&#8217;s not like I really meet anyone outside the rooms.</p>
<p>Now I have a new crush on a guy at one of my meetings. He offered to help me set up a website free of charge, which was nice of him. He came into AA the same time I did, but he ended up drinking again so now he&#8217;s been sober for two months. Intellectually, I know this is probably a bad idea to even think about&#8230; He also got divorced recently, just like the other guy in AA I dated.</p>
<p>Anyway, I had a problem with the website so I called him on the phone and asked him about it, and we ended up talking for an hour about random stuff. I know I should keep it on a friendship level, but sometimes being sober feels pretty lonely. I don&#8217;t even know how to flirt with anyone sober, but at least he&#8217;s around my age &#8211; the other guy was 13 years older than me!</p>
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		<title>11 months sober, and worlds collide</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day 330 of sobreity. I made it to 11 months, and I had a pretty funny weekend, I have to admit. I was bemoaning the fact that I have no social life outside of AA meetings on Friday, and a friend in AA invited me to hear some live music on Saturday night. I ended [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=256&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 330 of sobreity. I made it to 11 months, and I had a pretty funny weekend, I have to admit. I was bemoaning the fact that I have no social life outside of AA meetings on Friday, and a friend in AA invited me to hear some live music on Saturday night. I ended up inviting a drinking friend who doesn&#8217;t know I&#8217;m AA&#8230; and then I realized I had to come up with a cover story.</p>
<p>I told the drinking friend that I met everyone in yoga, but then two of the AA people started getting into an argument over talking when the music was playing. One of them stormed out and began 10-stepping on the phone on the patio. My friend turns to me and says, &#8220;How do you know these people again?&#8221;</p>
<p>Then the drinking friend and her date starting dirty dancing to the music right in front of the band. Everyone in the band was in AA, but at least they looked bemused. I have been pretty conscientious about keeping my AA life and regular life completely separate, but maybe I shouldn&#8217;t worry about it. Although I probably need a better cover story than yoga&#8230; unless there is some yoga class out there where everyone smokes!</p>
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		<title>Waiting to see the difference&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Day 325 of sobreity. I went to a meeting over lunch today, and it was kind of an interesting topic. The meeting was about how we can see the changes in our lives once we stop drinking. I have been sober for almost 11 months, but I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m a different person. I [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=quietdrunk.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5020524&amp;post=254&amp;subd=quietdrunk&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day 325 of sobreity. I went to a meeting over lunch today, and it was kind of an interesting topic. The meeting was about how we can see the changes in our lives once we stop drinking. I have been sober for almost 11 months, but I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m a different person.</p>
<p>I can remember everything in the past 11 months, so that&#8217;s certainly helpful. I just don&#8217;t know if I feel any different. I don&#8217;t think my personality has undergone a complete change, or if I&#8217;ve had the &#8220;psychic change&#8221; the book talks about. I mean, I&#8217;m sure there are differences that I don&#8217;t notice. I did clean out my closet and give a bunch of clothes to Goodwill. Some of the clothes are ones I certainly don&#8217;t wear now that I&#8217;m sober.</p>
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